Business Expert Laura Browne talks Resilience

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Laura Browne is a certified business coach with more than 20 years of experience in global human resources and management development. She has trained and coached female leaders from Fortune 100 companies and is a regular contributor to Forbes. Her straightforward and actionable advice has helped women in all stages of their careers achieve their goals.

As a business coach, Laura Browne helps her clients identify areas of opportunity and develop strategies for success. In addition to one-on-one coaching, she offers workshops and webinars on topics such as goal setting, time management, and networking. Laura is also the author of the book The Confidence Code for Girls: Taking Risks, Making Mistakes, and Becoming Your Best Self.


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All right. Welcome back. Kim talks. I'm your host, Kim Hayden, and I am super excited that you are choosing to share your most valuable resource with me and my guests today, your time. So speaking of guests, you know that our goal here at the Kim talks resilience is to find women with amazing stories that inspire and can help you move your life forward in the direction that you're looking to improve or grow. Or just, you know, what one of your best lives possible because this is important. We don't have a lot of time, so let's invest it wisely. So today's guest, Laura Browne. Super excited. We're going to learn a lot today. Laura Brown is a corporate trainer, author, speaker and a certified business coach. With more than 20 years of experience in global human resources and management development. She has trained and coached female leaders from Fortune 100 companies she has written for Forbes and has been quoted as a business expert in major publications, including Cosmopolitan Family Circle Magazine and USA Weekend. Laura is the author of Holy Group Ten Books, including Increase Your Income, which we all want to do with inflation, and set seven rules for women who want to make more money at work and a Cinderella story or how to make more money without a fairy godmother. She now helps women to make more money by being competent and getting heard of online training programs at her company. Career Tips for Women. And welcome, Laura. Hey, Kim.


So nice to be here.


I am excited and excited because I think today and moving forward, everybody wants to make more money. Absolutely.


Absolutely. Why shouldn't we?


Awesome. So where I'd like to start is just diving right in, you know, a little bit, that origin story. So we start peeling back some of the layers here because I find our origin story a lot of times starts kind of creating that pre frame for why you're doing what you're doing. So can you share with us a little bit like I love to know where people are, right? Because you're not in my mother's basement, I'm pretty sure because that's where I am. So tell us where you are, where you're from, and a little bit of your origin story.


Well, I am in Phoenix, Arizona, and I think it's over 100 degrees today. So I am loving it now. I love the heat because I grew up in New York. I loved it, and spent years in California. But I decided I want to be where the sun shines all the time and Phoenix. So. So what brought me here so it was, was years and years ago and I was working in human resources. And I remember thinking I want to make more money. And so I was all prepared. And let me just tell you, this is before you could Google this stuff, okay? But I had my and my stuff all together. And I remember talking to my boss at the time. We went to the conference room and I started saying I wanted more money, and he shut me down immediately. I mean, he said no so fast. I just and I don't remember the rest of the meeting. I just remember being so upset and so embarrassed because I just thought, oh, my gosh. He basically told me that I'm terrible and maybe I shouldn't go back to it. Now, he didn't say any of those things. He just said no. And so that night, I talked to a friend of mine, and again, I was just feeling really bad for myself. And I don't know that I can go back to work and all this other stuff. And she said, Well, what did he say? And she said, no. Why did he say you weren't going to get a raise? Well, I don't know. He didn't tell me. So she said, well, you've got to go back and ask. So I'm getting chills just thinking about it because it was so hard for me. So the next day I went back and I asked if he is a nice guy, I'm still in contact with him. And he said, Oh, well, obviously you're not going to race until it rains. And that was the first time I realized, yes, my company had Ray's time. And it wasn't until like three months. And he said, oh, in three months he'll get a fine raise. Now, what I did then was smart. I said, Well, can you tell me what I need to do to get the best raise possible? And he said, Oh, you're fine. I said, No, I want the best raise possible. So we talked about it. And in three months, I did get a great raise. But that sort of started me on the whole journey, like realizing, Wait a minute, what do I need to do? And how do I need to ask? And I started telling my friends about this and other people, and I started thinking, I need to understand this more. Yeah. So that was a huge step for me.


So when we go to the Origin story, can you share with me a little bit of your childhood? Why is money important to you?


Oh, okay. Yeah, my childhood. Well, and it's funny because you know, when I was little, you know, I didn't really think that much money wasn't that important to me, honestly. You know, when I was a little kid and I was in New York, we had, you know, I had a nice home. I had a, you know, a good family. I got an allowance. And then when I was 16, basically my mom said, okay, what are you going to do now? You know? And so I went out and I got my first job working in a veterinary clinic as a receptionist. And I will tell you what, that made me decide I was never going to be a vet because.

No, no, no.


I mean, and the vet was wonderful. He was the nicest guy. And I remember asking him, how do you decide what you want to do? He said, I love animals. And so but, you know, sometimes, you know, it's not that there aren't good days. And he said, yeah, but he said, but I have the chance to make a difference in animals and people's lives. And I thought, wow. And I remember getting those first checks, which I'm sure I don't even remember how much I was making, but those first checks were not much, but they were like gold to me because I was 16 and I had all this money in my new little bank account. So ever since then I was like, I can make money. This is really fun. Yeah. So that was that first job was such a difference to me.


Awesome. And you know what I think that every parent should get should ensure the child has a job at 16.


Oh, I think it's a great idea.

You know, even if it's only three, 4 hours a week, you get, you start looking and you see the money and you go, Oh, that I had to work X amount of time to be able to buy this. And yeah, it's worth putting a real understanding as to what things cost and what the value is in it. So before we jump into what you do because I know everybody's now it's interesting because we are talking about money. Yeah. I want everybody to go over to WW Dot Queen of Resilience Shop and spend some of that money. We got some sassy fun stuff, you know, sass class, you know, have some fun in there but just put your queen hustle on, straighten your crown, shop around and that's Queen of resilience that shop. You like that Safeway. That was a good day, Laura.


That was great. That was really great.


So now we're going to go into what you do to share with me. Why are you here today?


I'm here because I don't just want to make more money. I want everybody to make more money because once I was in human resources for years and years and years, so I know what goes on behind the scenes. And I know that there are plenty of people in companies that make more money than others. And it's really annoying because I would say these people were really loyal and really good at their jobs and many of them were women. Now, nope, nope, nope. Not all women, but many of them are women. And they wouldn't ask us. The people that got the razors were, first of all, the ones that asked okay. And the ones that made it clear and also the ones that the company was worried about losing. And so I hate to say this, but a lot of times when you have these really really loyal, specially female employees that say, I will stay here, I will stay here when the boss thinks about how I should spend my extra money? It's not to those people because they're not worried about them. If you're basically telling your boss, I am here for forever and I love my job and I love my job, then you're not going to get the extra money. And so basically, I want to help women to understand just a couple of small things that they can do, because talking about money is so uncomfortable. I mean, I don't know about you, but basically I was taught that nice girls don't talk about money. Know? Okay, you're laughing. So nice girls don't talk about money, and we certainly don't ask for a raise. I mean, gosh, you know, we should just be lucky that our companies are giving us money. Yeah, that is not true. We work, we are valuable, and we deserve to make money. And a lot of times we deserve to make more money than we make them, but we don't mention it. And so nobody is there. Nobody is going to hand you money. Nobody's going to toss you money if you don't know. So I'll give you an example. So let's work with somebody. And would she want to get a new job? And so I was telling her how she should negotiate. Basically, I said okay, when you get the offer, thank them and tell them what a great job that, you know, you're the right person and reinforce that and then pause and say, is there any flexibility and then stop talking. Don't say, but I'll still take the job anyway. It's okay. So I don't know if that's going to work. And I said, give it a shot anyway. So she said, Is there any flexibility and the woman immediately said, Oh yeah, there is. And then went on, she got a 15% salary increase. 15%. And what she told me went on, she was mad she said, Well, if I hadn't asked, why didn't you just offer me more money? And I'm going to tell you right now and interview people. And I just saw this on a post on LinkedIn that it's not their job to tell you you're not making enough money. It's not their job to say, I could get an extra $10,000. It's your job so you're the one that has to ask.

That is, it's really interesting that you're saying that because I just recently saw Loni Love, who is from The Real and all those TV shows, and I think she's very, very good talk. Actually, I was in Phoenix. I saw her in Phenix three weeks ago. She had a quote that will stick with me for the rest of my life. A closed mouth. No, never gets fed. Oh, I like that. Yeah, there's one that's true. That is so good. And that is exactly what you're talking about.


Yes. Yes, it is.


So everybody, before we jump into why and I want to actually pull this back into more of the what? So I want to dive a little bit into your journey because we have 20 years of experience here that we're going to unpack a little. But before we jump into that, folks, is everybody out there right now like subscribe comments, share life, subscribe common share? Because you know what? Without that, it's hard to bring all of this amazing information to you. So as always, like, comment, subscribe and share it. If you hate it, do it even more, share it out more, get rid of me, get rid of me, let those comments in there. But okay, so 20 years of experience, you've decided to go into this coaching process and we're going to be driving a little bit into the why, but I want to create the foundation so people know your value that you bring, save 20 years experience and ten books. Walk me through a little bit about this, this path for you because we know that we're seeing the great resignation with women over 40. Oh yeah. And coming from corporate and moving into entrepreneurship is really scary for a lot of people and you don't know which way there's no instructions that come with this. You have to find a leader to follow which you like yourself. So share with us a little bit of your journey discovering the path.


Well, so this is really interesting you say that because I was, I was purely a corporate person. I mean, I just, you know, corporate I just figured I would, you know, live my life and be corporate. Well, life doesn't always go the way you expect so I was working at a small company. I'm not going to say the company name because of what happened. I was working at a small company and I wasn't really happy. And I was working from home then, which was kind of unusual. And I was really sick. And so I finally got up and I checked my voicemail message and I had been laid off by voicemail from this company. Yeah, they had it. And I in retrospect, I should have known things weren't going that well, but I thought, oh, it won't happen. To me. And yeah, and so I was part of the layoff. And so, I mean, I was the sole provider for my family. I had a little kid, I had a mortgage. I mean, I did not have a choice and so basically I looked for another job. And the quickest way for me to get another job was to be a contractor at a company. And suddenly I was like, I'm a contractor. And I only worked for a certain number of hours and I can do other stuff on the sign. I was like, I love this. And so I started looking for other gigs, and so I was an entrepreneur for years and years and years, and I did training and I did coaching and I did all sorts of things and it was really, really fun. And then I decided, You know what, baby? Corporate life is good and I dip my toe back in the corporate life again, and I realized it was okay. And it's good for a while, depending on your boss. But what I learned from that whole experience, because now I'm back in entrepreneurship, what I learned from that whole experience is you are responsible for your career because again, early in my career, I thought my boss will take care of me, and some bosses did through my boss will take care of it. But first of all, no one, your boss is really, really busy, especially today. Your boss may have ten other people that are responsible for a whole bunch of other projects. And let me tell you what, your boss is really worried about their job and they're not as worried about you. And sometimes they don't even remember what you do. So I just when I got laid off, I was like, Man, I am the only person that was responsible for my career choice and my career success. And that brings me to sort of today when I tell women, don't wait for your boss to, you know, hand you the wonderful money and the raise and the 3% increase or whatever it is you need to work with your boss and you need to make it clear and you need to you need to be the CEO of your career rather than just sit back and wait for your company to do something nice because sometimes they will and sometimes they won't. Sometimes you could get laid off, you know, and sometimes they'll get a big old bonus. But don't leave it to chance. As you said, open your mouth if you don't open your mouth, things are not going to happen for you.


You know what? You just brought up a really interesting study because I am in my mother's basement, as I mentioned, I drew it. I drove 24 hours from Wichita, from Calgary, Alberta, to Wichita, Kansas. And in that time I decided to pull out Bob Bird, go give her implants and listen to it again. And what you are talking about is really fascinating because so many times were caught within the cycle or the silo of our own life that we don't stop and think about what's going on the other side of this conversation. And that's what I really like about that Bob Bird book called that go giver the go giver influencer because it talks about the dichotomy of the two people who are in conversation and all the different things that are going on in both worlds. And by opening your mouth and having conversation and having some transparency, right. As to not only what you want, but why you want and then try and find that. I think that's really I think I think the art of conversation, I think but I think there's a whole coaching course there because oh my God, the art of conversation. And I think the last two years have really been challenging because I think we've lost a lot of those soft pills in conversation. Is my jail you want if you want a CRM. You are so in trouble. I think I have that checkbook ain't gonna happen. But if you want to find out what makes other people tick, I'm your gal and I love that. So somebody may be really good at one, they may be really good at that CRM and they've got to pull themselves out of the silo effect that we all get into and start putting on. Okay, this is what I want. What do they want?


Yes, yes. Yeah. But you're, you're so right. Because we don't think about it or if we think about it, we make stuff up. And a lot of times because of the way our brains are wired, because the brain brings us interesting, we think the worst.


Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.


So immediately it goes to the words because and there's a reason for that. Our brains are trying to protect us. So don't ask, don't put your head up. It's okay.


I hope that's like you when you went and you wanted your race. Yes. And they said no. You assumed the worst.


Oh, I assumed the worst. My job, I'm terrible. My boss hates me, all those things. So even before we do that, we assume that if we think about the other person we assume the worst. And we tell all these stories and we convince ourselves of it, see, I know I can't get a raise or I know I can't do this, or I know I can't get that project. And unless you talk like you've just said, unless you open up the conversation, you have no idea what's true.


Yep. And I and I and this is my personal belief, and I know my yes, my hair is pink. I do look at the entire world through rose tinted glasses. I I do believe that 95% of human beings out there are doing the best they can. Yeah, there's no malicious intent. So the only thing you're afraid of is the things that are unknown. Yeah. And yeah. So open your door, open your mouth and ask. And obviously, this is part of your why so over these 20 years, you start building this so we know what the cookie cutter the, the, the bio said you know, you're you want to help more women make more money. Yeah. Why do you look to help more women make more money?


So again, I can say, you know, because altruistically I want to help all people and that is true. However, there's another reason. So I had a daughter who by the way, is a redhead. And so I remember let's just say she's past college. I'm not going to say her age right now, but I remember looking at her when she was little thinking, I don't want you, honey, to go through the same nonsense that I am going through at work, the same struggles that I am going through. And I thought by the time you get to your job after college, I will like this to have disappeared. I mean, I've been talking about this stuff for years and years until my biggest hope was that my daughter wouldn't face the same sort of things with pay and other things that I would. Well, that hasn't happened yet, but I'm still pushing so that, you know, in years to come, I won't have to talk about this anymore. I don't want to keep talking about it. I want women to be able to do this. I want it not to be an issue, but it's still. So that's what keeps me going.


Absolutely. And I have a daughter also. And I will tell you my oldest is 33, so that's not possible. Yeah. Since we started 12.


Okay. Okay.


I was going to get you back. Okay, wait a minute. Do not know what to call social services. No, I did not start at 12. Okay. I was of legal age and I am much older than I look, so thank you. I'll take that. Okay. And it's probably just the, it's the, it's probably the wearing hot pink vans and I have pink hair.


So no, it's also the big smile on staff and the energy that really adds to it.


Absolutely. And you know what? You have two choices in life. You can either smile and make things happen or you just get out of my space. Those are your two choices, right?


So I was actually giving a presentation on how to be happier at work today. I didn't think about that as a choice that I talked about. You have choices. You can be happy or you can choose to not be happy.

The very.


I'm going to use that.


Later on. The very first thing, smile always smile smiling. It changes the muscle memory of the face. It affects your psychology. And you know what? It is one of these empowering, amazing gifts. If you're walking down the street smiling and you smile at somebody and they smile back, you know, it's not isolated.


Difference in that one second, you made a difference. You have no idea how bad that person today was or how good it was, but you just made them smile. I think that's great.


I yeah, it's it's yeah, that's that's my mission in life. Yeah. So let's jump in. So I hope everybody out there is getting a really good feel around here. Everything that Laura has to offer and everything she has accomplished and know that she is having a child, that you are striving to make the world a better place for you truly do put your heart into what you're doing. Yeah. So let's talk about books. You have ten books. I always ask for a book. Somebody that would recommend. I've already mentioned Bob Bird. See, give her influence so we don't have to cover anybody else's book. We've already done that.


Let's try. I do have a book. I like to suggest somebody else's book because I was actually just talking about it this morning. It's called The Happiness Advantage by showing a score and I love it. I love this stuff because it's all based on research. And honestly, I think that to me, like part of the fact I'm helping people with money is that it helps them be happier. But he's got some really good specific things, so I highly recommend that one.


Awesome. I'm betting. Yeah, that's audible too, because I think all of that is. Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah.


This is just how I listen to everything. So share with us. Let's walk me through your ten bucks.




Well, a couple of them I know.


A couple of them are little kids' books, so I don't need to go through them. But I did write a tween book that I was hoping to be the next Harry Potter book called Annie Clark and the Pearls of Wisdom. It didn't turn out to be the next Harry Potter book, but what it did turn out to be, it was a semifinalist and an Amazon breakthrough novel award competition a number of years ago. So that was that.


Great, that's very cool. And I love to use all the pearls of wisdom. Yes. It was a week of conversations with my mom. Oh, yes.


Yes, it was. They were pearls of wisdom. In addition, I've also written a book called Why Can't You Communicate Like Me: How Smart Women Get Results at Work All About Communicating. So it's about four basic communication styles. And once you speak in somebody else's language, then they're more likely to hear you because they're speaking in their language. I've also got the salary Cinderella story, which is a fun way to take a look at how to get a raise at work. So basically my coauthor and I took the seven rules of how to get a raise. And so let's make a fun story about it. Let's talk about somebody. The main character is unhappy at work and sort of unhappy with her boyfriend. And she learns she meets a mentor on a plane who is like a fairy godmother who teaches her these things. And then we did that and then we wrote the single Cinderella Story. So a book about dating also. So I like to write books about all different areas.


Okay, so wait a minute, go into the single Cinderella story.


A single Cinderella story or how to find love without losing yourself. So, yeah, so it's basically all about two. She basically meets three different guys that she dates, but it's not about the guys. It's about feeling like you love yourself first and understanding you first and then understanding what's important to you and what's not important to you and having really good, authentic conversations with the other person.


Okay, Laura, this is one that we're going to have to unpack a little further just so you know. Not that I'm saying I'm married. I will be married until my husband is now. But I have several girlfriends who and I think a lot of people get scared, especially women over 40 because they sit and go, oh, I messed up so bad before. Right. And sometimes it's a matter of unpacking. It wasn't when you got married. It was not a mistake. It is that you have shifted and changed. Yeah. Yes. And yes, it is. Okay. When we look at relationships as a reason, a season and lifetime. Right.


That's good. I hadn't heard that one before. Okay. Yeah. I like that.


Yeah. So, so recent. I believe I'm in a lifetime relationship with my husband. We've been married 27 years. But the reality is, if anything were to happen and I ended up by myself, I probably wouldn't want to go into another relationship. So. And so then that relationship is no longer a lifetime. It's now a season, right? Yeah. And, I think we should really look at ourselves as opportunities to grow right and give ourselves that grace that we all go through all these different seasons that allow us to become these amazing beings, if only we nurture the season.


Yes, I.


I would love to have you back on literally. And maybe what we could do is like a panel of three. Bring on your every like three of us, and we.


Could just discuss.


Everything we think is wrong with the dating world and how we can be better at loving yourselves so that when we love ourselves, guess what? We find people who love us well.


And I would love to do that because I was married for 25 years and I am no longer married and I am dating and I've had some wonderful relationships and I've had some ones that didn't go so well. And so some of those stories are in the book as well as some of my friends' stories.


Okay, so let's do this. Let's make a plan right now and let's do it. Do you drink wine? I apologize if everybody out there is sober. I apologize. I do drink wine. But maybe we could do this in the evening over one. Oh.


I might drink beer. I don't drink.


Perfect, perfect. Let's have cocktails and Cinderella Night. Yeah, I would love to do that. And. Okay, awesome.


I'm super excited. All right. You and I will. Well, we'll do that. I think that would be really good.


Bring on a third. I think we should get a couple of guinea pigs.


Oh, okay. Well, I also do have my coauthor, and I will tell you again that in order to do one of the things I did I took a pole dancing, and I try to see I knew that would make you laugh. I took pole dancing, and I talk about that in the book because I just thought it would be really, really fun.


Well, you're far more coordinated than I am because I tripped over my own feet. So I must.

Tell me I was good at it. I just thought, you know what? I want to do something new. And that was something new and different that a friend of mine suggested. So I did it.


Awesome was, I think, Demi Moore course.


No, no, no. I actually. Oh.


Yes, I did. That was my outside voice. Please, nobody sue me. Oh, okay.


You're so funny.


So. Okay, so I want to quickly, before we jump into your quote of inspiration and where everybody can find you, I'd like for you to share with me a time of resilience that you would not be sitting in that blue chair with the microphone if you had not had resilience. And you can go all the way back to when you were five years old and got back on the bike.


No, actually, I was going to use something else, but I'm going to do something different. After 25 years, I got divorced and I remember sitting on my bathroom floor with the door closed, sobbing because I didn't want my daughter to hear how sad I was. And I just thought, I can't believe that this ended. I mean, I just can't tell you how awful it was, but I had to wipe off the tears and I had to get myself up and I had to get her to school the next day. And step by step. And, you know, I pulled it back together, but it wasn't easy. And so whatever people are going through, I know that there are really, really bad times and there are times you think I can't possibly go through to tomorrow. I can't. I can't take this. I don't know. I didn't have money. As you know, I was divorce all this other stuff. I don't know how I can do it, but I was able to and part of it was I had to do it for my daughter. I mean, I had to get her to school. And she was always I mean, obviously, she was very upset about it, too. But every day got a little bit easier and a little bit easier. And so it was just taking that one step in front of the other that got me to where I am today.


Did you have somebody that you could lean into?


Oh, I have the most wonderful family in the whole world. I have a wonderful Italian family. I just yeah. So I could call them. I also had some of the best friends I'm still friends with from high school so I could call my friends. I also went into counseling. Let me be realistic about that. So absolutely, there were people that I could turn to, though, when, you know, when you feel like you've lost everything, it's so hard to reach out to other people. And people reached out to me, how are you doing? How are you doing? And I did reach back out to them. But there's that feeling like I don't want to burden anybody. I don't want to help, I don't want to tell anybody. But yes, that doing that made a huge difference talking to other people and letting them help me through it and hold my hand.


Absolutely. And, you know, sometimes being vulnerable and saying, I'm not alone. Yeah, I'm not alone. I don't have to be alone again. I never close my mouth. And sometimes you just need to speak up and reach out and engage. And I love the fact that you're open enough to share because a lot of people and you don't sound bitter.


That's you know, you're better.


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Right. And that's the thing is that understanding a reason, a season and lifetime and embracing it and saying, okay, how do I make this work forward because it's not working now? And that that's that is a true mindset in anything business life raising children you know losing £50 or you know even just sometimes getting the garbage out to the curb when you don't feel like growing up quickly in a slow drip because I don't happen to live in Phenix so.


That is true. Yeah that's not something I normally worry about.


Exactly. So quote I love hearing quotes and why they inspire share with your North Star quote.


So my favorite quote is from Eleanor Roosevelt. And it's still one thing every day that scares you and I always try to think what do I not want to do today? What's frightening? Sort of like, I don't know, being on a podcast or something might be a little like out of your comfort zone. So because if you just stay in your comfort zone, you're not going to change. You're not going to grow. So I'm always trying to push and do new things. So that's my favorite quote.


Do one thing. Okay. That's awesome. I absolutely agree with that. Growing Pains means you're growing.




And so being uncomfortable. I personally love maybe not at the exact moment, but I love being in a room of women who intimidate me just a little.


A little bit.


Just a little bit because it means I'm not the smartest. There's something I can learn, and my time is being well served. Yeah, right. It's always that pushing, that, growing that, you know, and that's why part of the reason I do this, I don't have ten books. I don't have you know, all these things. I, you know, here's the reality. I get very intimidated when I meet with women who have PhDs and have higher education because they're I'm I'm I'm I'm a G.E.D. from Wichita, Kansas, hairdresser. And I did it for you yeah. And I sit here and it's funny because it's always so, like, engaging with amazing women like yourself. How helps me move past those self were the harshness that we serve ourselves. Right? Yeah. And here's the reality in today's world, nobody cares. That is absolutely true. Yep. What do you do? What do you do? So you know what you know, Laura, this is awesome. Can you share with us where we can find you? So everybody can hunt you down and you can help if you have any kind of gift. Yeah. Promotion or anything like that, please share it. Now.


I'll. I would love to. So if you go to career tips for women dotcom, there's information that you can find my book there, but also you can find all my books on Amazon. But if you go to career tips for women dotcom and you use the coupon code, Kim you can get 20% off my online classes and also there's a free video there that goes through how to get a raise at work because we didn't really talk about that but it actually goes through the seven different steps. So go ahead and take a look at the free video and find out more information.


Amazing. Amazing. Laura Scott, you covered today's world we are going through in place. Your prices are not going to come down. You're still going to have to buy your groceries. That's statistically based on our current rate of inflation. If you made an average income of between 60 and $80,000, you need to be generating another four to $600 a month right now in order to afford the same basket of groceries. So do yourself a favor, folks. Hook up with Laura, find out what you can do. So next time you have an opportunity that you don't even see or know, that's there. You see the opportunity to get the money you're worth. Is that right, Laura?


That is right. And the other one thing I would suggest is start early because again, don't wait until it's raise time and your boss is sitting in front of you giving you a raise. It's too late. Human Resources already agreed to it. Start four months early. So start today, start now. Start thinking about it. Start asking if maybe your boss is already thinking about giving you a raise. So give them the question and help them to start working on it so you can make more money.


Give them permission to treat you right. Yes, I love that. Absolutely. All right. So Laura, thank you so much for joining me today. And we are definitely going to do this again. Like I can I can tell that we can talk for hours.


Oh, thank you, Kim. This has been so much fun. I really appreciate that. Absolutely.


Absolutely. Be sure you guys all look out for Laura. Do connect with her. And the next time you feel that your resiliency is lagging. Be sure to listen and lean into the resilient community. You know, you can join us totally free. My gift to use that resilient gift dot com for your free membership and hate it. You have an amazing story that you'd like to share. Up Resiliency theme me at Resilience series on almost every platform that's out there. Or Kim Hayden. I'm easy to find. This is where we celebrate and showcase female founders, coaches and entrepreneurs, authors, speakers and those who aspire to be any and all of the above. So until next time. Thank you so much. I am your host, Kim Hayden. And this is another amazing episode of Kim Talks.

Laura Browne is a corporate trainer, author, speaker, and certified business coach with more than 20 years of experience in global human resources and management development.

She has trained and coached female leaders from Fortune 100 companies. She’s written for Forbes and has been quoted as a business expert in major publications including Cosmopolitan, Family Circle magazine, and USA Weekend.

Laura is the author of 10 books including Increase Your Income – 7 Rules for Women Who Want To Make More Money at Work and A Salary Cinderella Story (Or How To Make More Money Without A Fairy Godmother).

She now helps women to make more money, be more confident, and get heard with online training programs at her company, Career Tips For Women.


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