A Resilient voice for Breast Cancer Survivors, and Women Everywhere - Featuring Christine Handy

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Christine Handy -National and International model. Best selling Author of Walk Beside Me, Writer, Motivational Speaker, Social Media Influencer, FOX radio news breast cancer expert, Nationally recognized Humanitarian, Mother, Student at Harvard, Mentor and Board member of two non-profits.


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Hello. Hello and welcome back to Kim Talks. I'm Kim Hayden, your host. And you know what? I'm super excited that you're taking time to share. It's, you know, just your energy and coming to the table and listening to the stories of these amazing women. So here Kim talks about resilience We share stories of insight and inspiration in life, love and business with resilient women from around the world. But first, before we dove into today's conversation, I do want you to take a moment and check out our new store WW Dot Queen of resilience dot shop. You know, this is our online store. We have a bit of sass, a lot of fun. But be sure to straighten your crown. Shop around the Queen of Resilience Shop. So today's guest is an absolutely beautiful woman inside and out. And I'm super excited to do a deep dive into her story. But Christine Handy is a mother of two, a breast cancer survivor, international speaker, and accomplished model. She has also got this, a student at Harvard, mentor board member of two non-profits and a nationally recognized humanitarian. Christine Handy is a popular social media influencer and Fox News breast cancer expert. Christine has seen it all and has overcome all odds. Her motto is, there's always a purpose and pain. So there's always purpose and pain, but we have to be willing to share the story. And this is what really drew me to Christine today. Christine is a best selling author of the book Walk Beside Me A Story of Hope, Faith, Friendship, Hardship, and Taking a Closer Look at what Truly Matters. So welcome to the show. Christine, let's get you in here. Here she comes. Welcome.


Hi. Thank you for having me. Thank you for that lovely introduction.


Thank you. It's better when I take my time. I usually just everybody knows that they usually read these often and read a little. And I don't really fast that I trip over my tongue and they're going to say so. But yes, it takes a few moments. No, I'm super excited to dove into this. But what I'd like to do is I'd like to actually set the foundation. I want people to know a little bit more of who you are.


Well, my name is Christine Handy. I'm a mother, which is my most important job. I'm an avid tennis player, which will be shocking to you after we talk about my story. I live in Miami, Florida, because I'm a beach girl, not a mountain girl. And I'm from Saint Louis, Missouri, so I'm forever a Midwesterner.

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Oh, and I'm from Kansas. So we've got that in common. But you got the beaches, and I'm from the mountains. Can you tell how white I am? So I blend in winter for you. There you go. There you go. So share with us what you do.


So I get to wake up every single day and serve in some capacity, whether it's with my book. What whether it's with my speaking career, whether it's modeling with a concave chest in New York Fashion Week or the year in Miami Fashion Week, or if it's mentoring cancer patients or mentoring prisoners, which I do as well, or working with brands on social media, giving people hope and sharing my purpose and even with my children. So pretty much from the moment I wake up until the moment I go to bed, I'm doing what I'm serving, I'm inspiring, I'm giving people hope in some regard. So I do a lot of different things. But altruism is what I do.


Altruism. Well, you had also said, like mentorship. So what does that look like? So, you know, we know the obvious mentor in our children to be the best human beings they can be. But you know what? What is that around mentorship? That is part of your purpose.


So I started to speak in the prisons in the state of Florida about four years ago. And when I started to speak in the prison system, I had no idea that that would be kind of a passion of mine. I was chosen as a motivational speaker and I wasn't chosen to be in a women's prison. I was chosen to be in men's prisons, which, in my opinion, is rare, I've historically only spoken in women's organizations. And so that was kind of a surprise for me. But I'm always up for a challenge. So I said, no problem. And when I started to speak in these prisons, there was an app called JPEG, and you can email the prisoners back and forth. So what they asked me when I'm at that prison, if I will email them, then I always say yes. So I have a lot of people in the prison system who email me and expect a response. So I do that. I mentor a lot of prisoners, and that's how I do it. But I also have had the opportunity to mentor some of them since they've gotten out of jail. A couple specifically one reached out to me about four years ago, and he reached out to me on Facebook, I think originally, and he said, Would you mind meeting me? I have an idea. And I thought, Yeah, no problem. A couple of my friends said, You're crazy. You should not go meet somebody that just got out of prison for 30 years for murder. And I said, You know what? Everybody has a story. Everybody has a story of forgiveness. And if we can't forgive people that come out of jail, then that's our problem. And that's my heart. I'm not going to live like that. So I went to meet this gentleman, and we showed up in a red suit, like a red jacket, a red shirt, red pants, red shoes and a briefcase. And he said, I think we should start an organization in Palm Beach County, which is a big county in Florida. And we should try to change the rate of recidivism, which, by the way, was 97% four years ago. If you don't know what that word means, it's the rate of people going back to jail. 97% is.


In the United States it is the highest globally.


Unacceptable. Yeah, unacceptable. So we so I said to him, you know what? Let's talk through this. And it took several months. But three years later, four years later, we have a full board of people. We have raised a ton of money. We have great resources for people who come out of the prison system in Palm Beach County. And we're helping to teach them how to fish. Like we're not giving them handouts. We're trying to teach them. And so I said yes to this prisoner. So that's kind of what I mean by mentoring. There's a lot of women who have reached out to me on socials with breast cancer. I mentor them. I zoom with them in any regard that I obviously have no social life. So in any regard that I can I'm helping other people, giving them hope, because I know how much despair cost you. I know what feeling like paralysis emotionally feels like. I've been in that position. I don't want people to be in that position. I want somebody like me. If it has to be me, it'll be me. I want somebody to give somebody help.


Absolutely. And when you compound the real world on top of the first four foundational years, because you've been blessed to be able to raise your children and you've given them good foundational years so that they can make better choices, there is a lot of people that don't have the security of those first four years, and you probably have seen some of these studies in working within the prisons and such. But even when we talk about mental well-being as somebody who is going through, I'm not saying having a good attitude will cure cancer. I am saying a good attitude will help you be able to choose the right foods, get the right amount of sleep, do the exercises and show up every day to ensure that you're having the best odds with cancer. But if you don't have those foundational years, then you know, mentorship is almost beyond the critical stage. It's so essential because you have to have that exoskeleton of support to do that.


You know, that's a beautiful way to say, yeah, that's so true.


So in your studies I am curious and we're going to keep moving into everything else you're doing, but I just want to look into this a little bit more. So in creating this nonprofit to work with people coming out of the prison system in the United States, have you looked at other countries and seen what they're doing to help? Their incarceration rate declined. And I mean, are you looking like where are you getting your information? I'm sorry. I'm totally fasting.


No, I love it. I love it. I love it. No. A couple of the board members, actually, this couple who have been married for 50 years, started a similar organization up in Boston. And when they moved to South Florida, they were connected with this prisoner as well. Same as myself. And they join the board and they have been instrumental. They have done all the a lot of the legwork, and they basically brought what they learned up there to us. And so on a day to day basis, I don't go through those numbers. I don't go through that data. They do. I'm the president of the organization. I have different responsibilities but. Yeah, but I have looked into it. I just don't meditate on that because I have so many other things that are better going on in my life.


So you're the you're the voice. You're up there beating the drum. You're the front.


That's what. That's one of my jobs. I and I have to keep everybody in line because this is amazing to me. If I'm on the board of two on to what's the.


Yeah, what's the fight?


People fight. I'm not kidding. You people fight on these boards. And so I'm like, I'm a peacemaker. And so that's another one of my jobs. The other board that I sit on is called E Beauty. And Beauty is a wig exchange program. It's for women going through treatment who cannot afford a wig. I went through chemotherapy. I did not have any hair. I was privileged enough to be able to afford many wigs and my shoulder and really needed to see their mother with a wig. They wanted me to look like as much as I could like myself. But so many women cannot afford a wig and they're expensive. So we have partnered with L'Oreal and the Paul Mitchell salons. L'Oreal gives us grant money and the Paul Mitchell salons wash and style our wigs. And then we ship them out our biggest cost per e beauty of shipping these wigs out. But it's a free resource for women. And so I'm always constantly trying to promote it because people don't know about it. So if you go to E Beauty dot com and you're going through treatment and you need a wig, you can pick out the color of the court, the style, and we will ship it to you.



Amazing. And I'm going to make sure all that information is in this also. And we haven't even delved into basically two full time jobs. And you've got everything else you're still doing. You said that you're still doing runway. Is that I am doing modeling. So can you share a little bit with us on that? Because I, you know, want to be honest. I was always the big girl and the unique girl. I was an art kid. I would see it in school. So I always wondered about professional modeling because I you know, obviously your life must be a cakewalk and you're just like, right.


So we think there is absolutely no problem. I got no problem.


Now tell me what.


Basically what you just said is so true, right? Like people labeled you would put you in a box, right? And you fit that box. Like, that's how we define ourselves. For me, I defined myself very young as a model. And so I adhere to society's value of me, which was my external value was my only work and so when I was I hammered it into my self-esteem, though. If I didn't have these great modeling jobs, then I would not work anything. And so I picked relationships based on that. I made decisions based on that low self esteem. And the ironic thing about it is most people that look at successful models think their self-esteem is stellar. It's absolutely not true. Most of the models that I worked with had very little self-esteem. So it's been my job, my mission in life. To work on my self-esteem ever since chemotherapy, when I thought I had no value in this world. And so when I lost my hair and lost what I thought was my value, I had to really dig deep inside, through the duress, through the panic, through the I have no idea who I am stage and say to myself, Okay, we got to get to know you, because for 40 years you were materialistic, you were self-involved, you're insecure. You're totally suffocating yourself with external things and external accolades. Let's start talking to each other about what it is that makes you tick. What keeps you up at night? I'm asking myself. These questions go like, I have no idea. I like to play tennis. Why? Because my kids like that. I like to do this because my husband likes to do this. I like to do this. My friends like to do this. What did I like to do? And no idea. So going back to modeling, after I was finished with chemotherapy, I didn't call my modeling agency but a couple of years later, I had a Mersa infection in my chest and my implants had to be extracted. And so I became all of a sudden concave, even though I'd already had my breasts removed. And they were reconstructed with these beautiful implants, which, by the way, I loved. And so all of a sudden, I get this Mersa infection and this breast implant illness, and they have to be excavated. So now I'm faced with a concave chest, which I never had to face going through breast cancer. And I called my modeling agency and I said, I think I need to come back to work. And at that time I was 50, 49 years old. 50. And my modeling agency said, like, what do you mean? And I said, I know how bad this feels to have a concave chest in a society that defines beauty as our self value. I know how bad I felt when my chest was excavated twice. Now I have to help women so they don't feel as bad as I do. So I'm going to, although I was never one runway model, I was a print model. I said I would like to walk in New York Fashion Week. And she said, No, not a chance. You're not a runway model. You have never been a runway model. And I said, Okay, well, I'm going to fly up to New York and I'm going to kind of barge my way into New York Fashion Week. So I did that last September, and I literally was not invited to any shows, but I found my way in shows. I went to the designers. I said to the designers, I've been a model for 40 years. I have a concave chest. Women are suffering. Women who have to face this or have this a reality, feel shame. They feel alone. And I want to get on the runway and walk and show them that this is just as beautiful. And so I got four brands to hire me, and I walked in New York Fashion Week in February, and now I've been hired to do Miami Swim Week. So I'm trying to get in shape for that. So, you know, here's the thing. We can have all these doors closed, right? And that's life. But if we don't meditate on the outcome and say, Okay, wait, you know, they said, No, I'm going to keep going, you never know what you can accomplish. And I can tell you I have changed lives by walking in New York Fashion Week.


Amazing. Well, you're walking out there and you're you're putting it all out there. I want to circle back around to speaking in the presence and speaking in general. So one of the things that I call the road, I meet a lot of women. I interviewed 33 female entrepreneurs in Atlanta in an 8 hours when I was down there. So my goal is to find out how to get these voices out there. Right. Yeah. So I'm always asking women who have been able to not only want to become a speaker but get to become a speaker because it is a privilege to be able to push through and get those opportunities no matter how you work, how hard you work. There's a lot of people who work hard and they never seem to click. What were some of the things that you put in place that enabled you to plant that flag as a professional speaker?


So it's really hard to get hired by speaking agencies that I will just put out there. I when I finally was hired by all American speakers, which was a couple of years into my speaking career, that I thought I'd won the lottery, but they but the speakers bureaus, they don't promote you. I mean, maybe they do with like the speakers that are making $1,000,000 a speech, maybe they do, but they, they're not promoting me. So I had to promote myself. And after I was promoting myself on socials and YouTube and all these platform that we try to promote, not being not was not self-serving. Right. And I think people see that about me. And so when I was sharing my story, one of the reasons why I think it became popular was because of the vulnerability I would talk about the really dark moments and talk about like, how did I get up from those dark moments? And I think people need to hear that because then they don't feel so alone in their life and in their stories because like you said, going back to the modeling, people's perception of they look at a glimpse of what we're doing and they're like, Oh, she's successful. Oh, she's had a leg up. Oh, she's that's a bunch of bullshit. That's not true at all. I, I mean, I'm handicapped. I have I yeah, I can't even tell you how many things are not going right in my life, but we show up every day and we try to help other people, and I think that shows shines through. And so I have the privilege of getting on any platform, whether it's brands in social media or whether it's on a stage with myself or other people. It is a privilege. I take it as a privilege and I keep promoting it. I put it on my socials and say, this is who I am, this is what I'm trying to do. And again, if it's not self serving, I think people see that.


Yeah, absolutely. You know, the, the content will sell a service if the content is authentic. Right. People see that, right? And vulnerable and vulnerable. Absolutely. So, okay, so we've covered off speaking, we've covered off the model and we've covered off the nonprofit. We've talked about the two. You have two children. How old are they now? I thought you were much younger than what you're telling me. You are so. Well, preserved. This is beautiful. This is awkward.


Which is shocking because I had 28 rounds of chemo and I've had 23 non-elective surgeries. I've been cut out more times than anybody, you know, I guarantee you.


So you talk about disabled, do you mind sharing with us what what is the disability or, or.


Yeah. So yeah, no, I'd be happy to. So let's go back to the self esteem that was nonexistent prior to my cancer diagnosis. I had a torn ligament in my right wrist. And I went to see three great doctors. I picked one of them to stand for grad, you know, I picked the pedigree guy and he performed the surgery. And because my self-esteem was low, I'm not blaming this completely on myself, but he missed after the cast came off, my I had some all these other issues, and he misdiagnosed what that was. He sent me to a physical therapist far away from his office. He bullied me emotionally and told me that all the pain and swelling was in my head. And I believed him. And after seven or eight months of him bullying me and calling me a hysterical housewife, although I'd never shed a tear in his office, I finally got up enough courage because I didn't have a very good self-esteem and saw a second opinion at that point. My arm that almost lost all the cartilage in my right arm, right wrist was destroyed. There was not any left. My bones in my right wrist were totally broken. There was not one bone that was not broken. So I had to go into immediate surgery and they dug out as much infection as they could. And then they put a pick line in my arm. Then I flew up to New York City to a hospital called SS, which is a hospital for special surgery. And a very kind doctor took my case. Oftentimes, doctors won't take other doctors' botched cases. That's a liability. Yep. And and he took out my wrist and he fuzed it with cadaver bones, a cadaver Achilles tendon and bone graft and stitched it up. And I came back six weeks later for my six week post arm fusion appointment and I was in the shower trying to wash my body with a bar soap, and I felt a lump in my breast. And five days later, five days later, I was diagnosed with breast cancer and so because my arm is fuzed, I have no wrist. I'm in constant pain. And I couldn't even start chemotherapy because of the bone grafts. And the cadaver bones would have dissolved if I'd started chemotherapy. So I was diagnosed with an aggressive form of breast cancer and then couldn't even start treatment for a month because of what the doctor did to my arm. Talk about talk about learning how to forgive. Oh, yeah, my. That was a real struggle for me, but I, I don't give that man any weight in my life ever.

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Wow. Okay.


So I'm disabled in my way.


You have just such a like, like you said, you been there, done that, got the T-shirt, right? You've, you've. That's why the pain in purpose that that you know, or purpose in pain. That's why that's in your motto. So when we go into this, okay, before we jump into the why this is, we're going to take a quick break, folks. I want you if you're loving this conversation, you want to learn more, you want to dig dig into the why and and then have Christine share with us some other ideas around you know what what she fills her soul with, what she feels her life with. Be sure that you go like subscribe, comment and share. Please, please, please. This is how we keep the podcast moving forward. This is how we keep exploring and sharing these amazing stories of resilience and women who personified the word resilient self. Okay, so Christine, let's dove into. So we've gone through I think we've gone through almost oh, you're a student at Harvard, so not that you have enough going on. So tell me real quickly, student at Harvard, what are you studying?


I don't think there's anything quick about my story, but I'll try to be brief. So after I completed chemotherapy, I had terrible chemo brain. Chemo brain exist it's basically your brain is foggy. Your short term memory socks and your cognitive skills are impaired. So I would literally drive down the road to go pick up my children. And if there was not somebody driving, if I turned and there wasn't somebody on the road, I would forget which side to turn on. That's how much chemo has affected my life. And I knew at that point I had rebuilt my self-esteem. I knew at that point I could not depend on other people to fix my brain. I had to fix it. And so it was all about it, kind of empowerment. I can do this. And so I said to myself, because I was not meditating on the outcome anymore, I was meditating on the courage that I could show myself every day. And so I said to myself, You know what? You should apply to Harvard. You should go back to school. You should get your master's degree in writing and literature and try to fix your chemo brain. So I said I said to myself, Okay. So I applied to Harvard, and I also said to myself, if I don't if they don't accept me, who cares? You can never win if you don't try it. And so but that, like so much of my life, was so insecure and my self-esteem was so low that I wouldn't even put myself out there. I would try. So at this stage of my life, I was like, okay, tomorrow is promise to know one. I'm sure. Try everything I can to help people to make my life better, happier and less pain and better cognitive skills to be a resource to more. Right. I wasn't a resource with a chemo brain, and so I applied to Harvard. They took me and I've been in the master's program for three years. I have one more year and my chemo brain is completely gone.


Amazing. So you're using it. That's the one thing. If we don't use the gifts of which we're given, they will go rusty and die off. So, you know, even on the days that are hard, even on the days that are hard, you know, just keep pushing through. All right. So why do you like I'm just like it is why you've got so much on your plate right? You know, I know that everybody's always asking, like, how do you monetize this? How do you do this? You know, if you're doing everything for a nonprofit, you know how you pay for the roof over your head? And I know for you, it's not just money. It's not just about being financially rewarded although that is a part of it. And that's something that I like to ask a lot of women about is the monetization, because that's important. You've got to be able to share a roof over your head. So you have security so you can push forward. Can you share with us or if you're open to it? Sure. Yeah. Just a little bit on your financial model because you're a success story. So can you share with us a little bit of, you know, somebody who's coming up maybe ten years behind you in their journey, but similar story and they're wanting to follow your role, follow your modeling. What is your monetization model around your speaking and your coaching or anything along those lines?


So I think the best way for me to describe it is I felt at a certain point that I had value and that value should be monetized because whether it was modeling and getting a paycheck from the modeling or getting a paycheck from speaking and not giving all of my speaking gigs away for free, which I did in the beginning, because I needed content.


We all do.


Right? I mean, you do.


Have to get. Yeah.


But I think it goes back to self-esteem. I'm worthy of a paycheck. I'm worthy of being compensated for what I do. And so whether it's speaking or whether it's being on a nonprofit or whether it's modeling or my book or my book becoming a film or whatever it is, I'm I'm setting myself up for a success, financial success, most importantly, for emotional success. Right. That's number one. But that doesn't have to exclude financial success. In fact, we shouldn't be compensated for our hard work. And that's a self-esteem issue, I think.


Absolutely. And I think that's the biggest struggle women have is that imposter syndrome. I see that repeatedly. Credibility, confidence and relevancy and that's what the biggest challenges they face is that and and it's it's really easy to get sidelined by those that you've grown up with or have been around in your life. And they still view you as the nine year old that threw up on your cousin's payday game. They don't view you as the 49 year old who's totally crushing it. Right on. You know, you've got one person in your life that goes I one.


More than one. Are you kidding me? I still have some that I'm trying to get rid of.


I get it. I am still there with you. Okay. Before we dove into books because I want to go through that real quickly I do want you to share with me and I know it's going to be hard to pick because you've had so many times that you've had to pull within resiliency so deeply. But can you share with us the time of your life that without resiliency you would not be sitting here having this conversation?


Yeah. So many things. I think the breast cancer diagnosis on top of my arm was my breaking point. I literally was almost buried in despair. I just didn't know how to move forward. I now was a thriving mother wife model self-proclaimed athlete who became a sickly woman needing constant care and attention, whose husband didn't want to change the model that they had made right she's an independent girl. She's just like a really strong, tough girl. I was not the strong, tough girl when I was diagnosed with cancer. I was depleted after this whole arm situation. And after this man bullied me, I felt so low about myself. And the physical pain and the emotional pain was burying me. And I had a lot of friends show up for me. And I had a lot of people say to me, I will not forsake you. But man, without faith and without faith in God and without shifting my measure, from society's accolades to saying to God, I'm just going to surrender and you're in charge, I would have never made it. And that was really the best shift in my life.

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Amazing. And just having that surrendering up, what you can't control and.




What you can.


There was like there was so much despair. And, you know, the suicide thoughts that was that engulfed me. And those are kind of normal thoughts when everything that you believed was your value is taken away and I didn't know if I was going to be a mother anymore. I didn't know if my kids were going to be raised by somebody else. I didn't know if I was going to make it through chemotherapy. I didn't know if I was going to make decisions from a healthy self-esteem because I'd made disastrous decisions from a low self-esteem. I didn't know how I was going to ask my friends and family to help me after they'd just help me for a year with my arm. All my pride and my ego was teetering, my decision making, right? And I was afraid of asking for help. That's insecurity. And when I started to have more compassion for myself and I started to let go and surrender, then I was able to ask for help. The help that I really needed but that's letting go of pride, of ego. And I can say this with certainty, the 40 years that I lived before this trauma I accomplished things. But from 40 till now, never in a million years would I have ever imagined that I could have accomplished anything in those beginning days. I have accomplished more in my life since my cancer diagnosis. Diagnosis does not have to paralyze you. They can be just step ladders to your ultimate success and your ultimate dreams coming true. And that has been that has been apparent in my life. But it's hard work and it's great. It's great and it's determination and there and resiliency and courage. Those things can wane in your life. But if you have people around you that are lifting you up and encouraging you your resiliency will never stop.


And I want everybody take a moment and think about that, because if you're sitting there today and you're going through real struggles and you are thinking suicidal thoughts, even the passing ones, what would happen if I just drove off the bridge? What would happen if I maybe just decided not to get out of bed today? You know what? I have the story you're sharing, Christine. I have heard repeatedly from amazing women that, wow, even when everything was so hard that their life turned around because they chose to turn around, they've leaned in to those who support them. They've leaned into what their core principles are and they have found things to celebrate. And that is leading to the greatest rewards, that is leading to the greatest years. So thank you for sharing, because that was yeah, that those are the stories that people need to hear. So we're going to jump over here to books and I'm going to bring your book up on screen so everybody knows what we've got here. So, Christine, walk me through. First of all, we're going to give me your book. What's one book everybody should read?


Yeah, well.


And what's the other book? Everybody should read because.


I like to pick up the Bible first before my book.


And a quick, close second is the walk beside me by Christianity. Yes. The Bible is actually one that I see quite often when I ask people, what book is a book that you should read? Because every story is in there. There's something for everybody when you think about it, because there is, you know, everything to overcome the next obstacle, every reason, season and lifetime of stories. So I want to dive in because you mentioned the movie also. Tell me what. Tell me a little bit about your book. And what's the correlation between it and a movie?


Okay. So my book, Walk Beside Me is a fictional depiction of my life. When I was going through breast cancer, I was gifted a lot of self-help books, which were very important, but I could not find a book, a fictional novel on The Good, The Bad, the Ugly about going through this kind of tragedy. And I thought that it was important for people to read it because I needed it. And so I decided that I would write it myself and the book is also really important because it talks about the power of women coming together versus women negating each other. This constant comparison and judgment in our society is not healthy. And so I talk in my book about the women that showed me forward and said to me, When we're done with caring for you, then we're going to send you out to the world and you're going to care for other people. And I took that very seriously, and they modeled that beautifully for me. So there's a lot of examples of that in the book, and there are a lot of great takeaways for people. How to show your friends love going through illness, difficulty or divorce, whatever it may be. And so that's the reason I wrote my book and my book in 2018 was picked up to be made into a screenplay, and it's subsequently being made into a film. So a guy named Ziad Hamzah is an Oscar award winning screenplay writer, and he wrote the screenplay for my book, and it really does mirror my book. Oftentimes books are made into films and they don't always resemble the book. This screenplay really looks like my book, and so it's a beautiful story of women. Like I said, caring for each other. It's a movie about breast cancer, which I think is really important because there's too many people being touched by breast cancer. And so it's slated to be in production later this year.


Amazing. Where is it being filmed? Do you know what study is or what is it? L.A., L.A., Canada.


So how did you know Atlanta?


Oh, because Atlanta is where if I open a studio, it will be in Atlanta. Flip in to love that city I love. Yeah, I'm going to put it right out there, folks. I love the energy. I love the people. I love the hustle. I love the spirit of generosity. I did not meet a single person in Atlanta that I would not have over for dinner.


I love that.


That's beautiful. All right, so you're having it. It's being filmed in.


Atlanta, Georgia. In Georgia. In Georgia Theater. It's either New York State or Georgia, because there are certain states that give films a tax break. Georgia's being one of them. Arizona is one of them. New York State is one of them. So, yeah, probably East Coast. Yes. Yeah.


Awesome. Awesome.


I don't get to make those decisions either. That's. Yeah, I have no.


I'm just super excited. I'm super excited for you because this sounds to me like you have the opportunity or the potential for the next Eat, Pray, Love.


I think it's got great potential. Again, I'd say Michael's cancer. Yeah. Yeah. But here's a here's here's the difference between my story of pain and suffering and cancer versus most of the movies that are out there about cancer. I don't die. Like, we need that hopeful story, right? There's so many, like, think about it. Philadelphia, do not eat, pray, love. She didn't. She wasn't sick. But you know, all these movies are about illness and the patient dies. So we need a movie out there about illness, really dark illness. But the patient let us hope.


Absolutely. Okay. So where can people follow you? I've got your website here, Christine. He indeed.com. Where else can they connect with you on what social media platforms?


So I answer my messages on Instagram. If you message me on Facebook, I don't know. I don't answer them. There's too many but it's funny because I get people who get angry. I'll eventually look at it and I'll go, wow. Like they messaged me like four or five times like, where are you? And I just don't respond to that. But Instagram is Christine handy one. Facebook is Christine handy or walk beside me have to. And then, you know, if you Google me, there's a ton of articles and things like that. But if you want me to if you want me to answer, you message me on Instagram. Christine, anyone?


Excellent. And are you still doing speaking opportunities at like different women's functions or different nonprofits? So that all goes through. Do you have an agency that represents you or.


Who do.


They reach out to?


What's on my website, but it's all American speakers is my main agent. And I also have a manager in New York, and all of that information is on my website.


Awesome. Okay, so this is where I need you to leave us with a quote, an inspirational quote, something that on your dark days helped you.


What is that beauty? Beauty begins the moment you decide to be yourself.


Beauty begins the moment you decide to be yourself. That is beautiful. Well, Christine, I am goosebumps. Goosebumps. You can't see folks goosebumps again. I'm white enough. I blend in to the snow caps. So only white sand beaches are where I'm allowed. It's because, you know, tell me all land right into the sand. Okay, joke's over. Christine, thank you so much. I appreciate you sharing your time with us here. At Camp Talks and with me and giving me things I can learn. I every time I just, you know, folks, every time I speak to one of these amazing women I learn something to my life becomes better looking. I am like, I am truly blessed. This is what I love. This is what I love to do.


Differently. It's a privilege.


Yeah, it is. Absolutely. All right. So, folks, we're going to wrap up now. And I just want to say thank you again in the words of the amazing Brené Brown. I want to thank you for sharing your most valuable resource, your most valuable nonrenewable resource, which is your time. That means something to me and I really do appreciate it. So if you're feeling your life, resiliency is lagging just a wee bit. I want you to lean in and listen in to our resilient community here. You can get your free resilient gift at resilient gift dot com. And this is our new monthly magazine featuring these amazing women that I'm interviewing. It has, of course, fun recipes and all sorts of things. Plus, any time we do a live event, we're going to put on a live and virtual event. We're going to put those speakers videos for you to have access to because I believe that we all need to work together collaboratively because I'm the queen of resilience, but also queen of collaboration. Again, thank you for joining us here at Kim Talks. I'm your host, Kim Hayden.

Christine Handy is A mother of two, a breast cancer survivor, International speaker, accomplished model, Student at Harvard, Mentor ,Board member of two non-profits, and a Nationally recognized Humanitarian. Christine Handy is also Social Media Influencer and FOX radio news breast cancer expert. Christine Handy has seen it all and has overcome all odds. Christine’s motto is: There is always Purpose in Pain, but we have to be willing to share the story. Christie is a Best selling author  of the book “Walk Beside Me “ , a story of hope, faith, friendship, hardship, and taking a closer look at what truly matters in life.


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